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yes hello hey everybody

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okay thank you so much

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oh good luck with the kid who ride  

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have a wonderful time there I wish I 
was there too I want to go on a canoe

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I know that sounds fun

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all right well I’m not seeing Leona just yet 
um but for folks who um are just joining as  

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viewers if you can just put your name pronouns 
uh where you’re watching from which territories  

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um and I think we’ll um I’ll take 
a look out for um Leona uh but if  

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um if I can I’m gonna just start the live by 
introducing myself and the Hoodwink Collective  

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um so my name is alejandria Lyons 
the Coalition coordinator for New  

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Mexico no-fault Solutions hopping on the 
Hoodwinked um in the hot house IG today  

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um the day you know this is um we’re trying 
to one celebrate Earth week but EJ day Earth  

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week every day um and we’re here with a 
bunch of uh activists organizers individual  

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um water and land protectors that 
are working against false Solutions  

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um and decolonial um organizing from 
Youth and Indigenous perspectives  

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um so just real quick the who are doing 
collaborative is a coalition of climate Justice  

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organizations activists dedicated to producing 
popular education organizing resistance against  

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false solutions to The Climate crisis in 2021 
the collaborative published the groundbreaking  

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educational Zine also known as Hoodwinked in the 
hot house it was the same name as the Instagram  

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handle Third Edition resist false solutions to 
climate change presenting a stunning Illustrated  

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componentium of the false corporate 
promises that continue the Hoodwink  

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elected officials the public protecting systems of 
extractivism and colonialism while deferring the  

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real solutions needed for climate change taking 
perspectives from folks like we have today really  

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um so over the last two years 
the collaborative has printed  

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um over 47 000 copies of Hoodwinked in 
five different languages to distribute  

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among Grassroots groups as well as the UNF Triple 
C comprehensive party spaces produced an audiobook  

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has hosted several widely known webinars and 
widely attended so these efforts continue to  

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widen the opposition to harmful corporate climate 
schemes around the world to find more information  

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or to listen to hoodwing or read it in whatever 
language please visit climatefulsolutions.org  

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so I think I saw Leona on that’s just the quick 
bit about hoodwinks so thank you all for joining  

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from all of your accounts um I’m gonna pass it 
to Shaw to just briefly uh introduce yourself  

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hi uh my name is I am micronesian Palawan um I 
currently work as a director of digital strategy  

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at digital Climate Coalition as well as being 
the executive director at Pacifica uprising  

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and I the work I do is education in 
for Education information dissemination  

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um getting the word out about where climate 
Justice bodily autonomy and the colonial  

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Futures all intersect and that’s often through 
media animations podcasts short form videos  

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um and also showing up at direct actions 
because solidarity is not an esoteric or  

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sort of abstract concept solidarity is just us 
caring about one another and it’s one way for us  

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to honor our ancestors is to show up in 
solidarity for our fellow indigenous people

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and I will popcorn it over 
to whoever wants to go next

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can you hear me yeah go ahead Leona hey so 
so sorry I’m I’m late I’m new to Instagram  

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I’m like an old lady here um because this is 
only my second time using Instagram live and  

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I’m really happy to be invited um to talk 
about nuclear stuff so I’m in New Mexico  

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um uh just for my relatives my dinner relatives 
I’ll say my Clans real quickly um yeah

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um yeah so you’re

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apartment now and uh we’re in Albuquerque New 
Mexico on Julia’s people’s land and um I’m dinner  

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so my people are a couple hours to the west and um 
I’ve been working a lot on uranium mining issues  

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and now there’s a lot of push for new nuclear 
because of this idea this false solution that it’s  

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going to help with the climate crisis and we can 
talk more about that later so thanks yeah foreign

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yeah thank you um good afternoon everyone um good 
to see folks joining the live feed um my name is  

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Julia Bernal I am from San Diego Pueblo um tiwa 
speaking people um here in the middle row ground  

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of New Mexico I’m the executive director for 
Pueblo action Alliance and we are a Pueblo women  

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Femme uh two-spirit-led organization um here 
throughout the state of so-called New Mexico  

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um we work a lot with our Pueblo communities on 
climate Justice environmental justice economic and  

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social justice issues that directly impacts our 
communities and our homelands and our ancestral  

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our ancestral sites and sacred places we 
are um also really involved in youth youth  

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and work and um you know just like being a 
vehicle for our community members to access  

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um uh information about things relating to um 
environmental or natural resource planning um  

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any sort of environmental justice issues that have 
to pertain to extractivism or other false climate  

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Solutions and so we’ve been doing this work for 
over six years now as a as an organization an  

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operating organization and are just really 
happy to be collaborators with Hoodwinked in  

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the hot house and um of course with all the 
other organizers that are like on this call  

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um I feel like just to Echo what Shaw is saying 
around uh these I ideals of global solidarity  

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um having an internationalist analysis on climate 
initiatives and climate Solutions is like really  

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important to our work um and it definitely 
is a mechanism to help us build a lot more  

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um unified stances against uh global 
capitalism and other ways in which  

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um you know the the one percent continue to 
extract our resources and exploit our people  

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so really happy to be here with you all today I’ll 
pass it back to Ali thank you yeah thank you Julia  

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um now I’m gonna invite our last speaker 
Jonathan um from youth United for climate  

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crisis action to join um I might have to 
ask either Julia Shah one folks whatever

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yeah I’m not sure how to leave 
I got it I guess I just okay

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awesome thank you so much uh awesome and really 
happy to join all of you uh like Ollie just said  

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my name is Jonathan Juarez Alonso I am 20 
years old and I’m from the public of Laguna  

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and Isleta I currently serve as the policy lead 
for UT United for climate crisis action so Yucca  

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is a youth-led organization we were founded 
in 2019 and we were founded around you know  

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just demands of our our elected officials to you 
know keep fossil fuels in the ground and rapidly  

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transition our economy to 100 Renewables and since 
2019 we’ve been continuing that fight through  

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various campaigns I think one of the most recent 
has been you know our anti-hydrogen campaign  

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um but yeah we have hundreds of members throughout 
Northern and central New Mexico and it’s been  

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really awesome to join this team I joined in 2021 
but really awesome to join and build partnership  

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you know really across the state I think that’s 
something that we’ve been able to do uh that  

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has just kind of congealed so so beautifully and 
just come together in such a powerful way as young  

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people you know from all sorts of communities 
uh Pueblo and Danette communities as well  

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um it’s just been you know awesome to be 
a part of it and awesome to join you all  

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this evening and excited to to share the 
space um yeah I think I’m the last one and  

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I I’ll go ahead and hop off so that 
uh our other panelists can join back

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foreign

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our other guest is rejoining I just want 
to share the book I got some in the mail so  

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I’ll be referring to that yeah yeah awesome 
thanks Leanna for showing that cover  

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um yeah I’m so excited to to know and work with 
all of you through no false Solutions and um here  

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I’m also located in uh so then to a territory 
um I’ve also so-called Albuquerque um and yeah  

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I mean we’ve been doing a lot of work specifically 
around hydrogen and carbon sequestration but also  

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you know hearing stories from across the state and 
regionally about the different fall Solutions so  

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um you know I think we’ll start off with 
Leona but can you talk about you know some of  

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um you’re fighting against false Solutions and 
you know the way you’re supporting what you see um  

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as real solutions while centering specifically um 
you know decolonial ways of thinking youth climate  

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organizing um yeah in your in Your Vision so so 
about what work you’re doing and how you do it  

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sure um so I’m gonna just um maybe give a little 
a background uh for folks that don’t know me  

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um because I want to highlight um the Kiva 
Club I want to give a shout out to a student  

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organization I used to be a part of um like 20 
years ago um so I’m really dating myself here  

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this was when I was an undergrad at UNM um and so 
the Kiva Club did a lot of really excellent work  

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um and and that’s how I was introduced to EJ and 
all of this stuff so I don’t want to put down  

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student organizing I think it’s really important 
um but uh I right now uh fast forwarding I’ve  

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been work I worked with many organizations so like 
the first group I spent a lot of time with uh is  

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the sage Council uh which doesn’t exist anymore 
so they were working on sacred sites protection  

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um and uh then Eastern Navajo dinner against 
uranium mining which was fighting a uranium mine  

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um they still are uh fighting that mine we 
stopped it in 2014 and it a different company  

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has bought the the permits that’s a longer story 
but so some of the work I’ve done over the years  

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um it was with some dinette groups um indigenous 
groups um and then later I got really involved  

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with anti-nuke groups which were mostly 
Belladonna so a lot of white organizations  

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in the east coast and folks fighting uh 
both nuclear weapons and nuclear energy work  

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um so I spent a long time working with non-native 
groups building my own Community knowledge about  

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nuclear uh everything and so that’s where I that’s 
how I did my work a lot of it was just educating  

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myself and then sharing that with everybody so I 
I am I was on a call earlier today listening to a  

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young genev woman talking about what it’s like 
to organize on the res so having to um explain  

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these really complicated Concepts to our elders 
and then having to translate it so I personally  

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um I I want to say I’m learning my language I’m 
really learning you know my culture and and things  

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every day but um I’m not fluent and so when I 
was working on the res back when we were fighting  

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this uranium mine a lot of the work I did was to 
tell the elders what’s going on and then having  

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a translator explain it and so over time um this 
reality of our people not using English first as  

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as a language it’s you know where our people speak 
didn’t it our elders they don’t even you know read  

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the net uh because it isn’t a written language we 
had an oral history our whole culture everything  

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was passed on orally so how do we fight this big 
fight to stop a uranium mine or climate change  

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um when the reality is our people don’t have 
access to Internet um maybe even cell reception  

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in some places there’s a lot of it you know out 
in the rural areas um that’s the reality is our  

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people don’t have um some people don’t have 
running water much less high-speed internet so  

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um what I did and the way I did my work 
was this is going back into 2011 to 2014.  

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um I did a lot of driving um going to communities 
to give presentations and having paper handouts  

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with a lot of information in a graphic way where 
people don’t have to read so much but kind of like  

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an infographic um but but not so much reading you 
can go to my web site that this is this this is  

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not a very updated website but yeah you can go 
to dinner no nukes.org and um it’ll show this  

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page called the radiation monitoring project and 
if you scroll down there’s a link for resources  

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on educational materials so so what we did was a 
lot of Education um in in a way that was palpable  

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for people um so I live in the city and I’m not 
on the res I I don’t live in a contaminated area  

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um but I spent a lot of time learning about the 
issue I lived I moved back home for about a year  

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and um this is this is how I did my work was to 
immerse myself in the community even though I’m  

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dinner I’m still an outsider coming back home 
so I had to understand my role as an outsider  

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so even though I am Brown and my Clans are 
from there my relatives are living there  

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that didn’t mean I was easily accepted into the 
community um a lot of people were interested in  

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uranium issues because there’s this thing called 
a radiation exposure compensation act where they  

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can get funding to to pay for health Bill 
their health bills or or you know if they  

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lost someone from uranium mining so this was 
like a little bit of money um I mean I’m saying  

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a little bit like I think it’s like a hundred 
and fifty thousand but the Rica uh money it it  

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was supposed to Sunset last year and so this 
is a huge issue Across the Nation federally  

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um that we need Rica to continue so when I was 
doing my work people were more interested in  

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their health problems their water quality so it 
was really hard to talk about uh capitalism or  

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um you know neocolonialism all this stuff that 
we’re talking about today you know my elders  

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they were just asking me what’s going to happen to 
my body I I live in a place where I was breathing  

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this stuff in I live in a place where the water 
is contaminated our sheep were drinking the water  

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am I gonna get sick and so that’s what people 
were asking me they didn’t care what was going  

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on at the cop I don’t even didn’t even know about 
the cop the United Nations convening of parties I  

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didn’t I learned about climate change I think 
in 2005 is the first time I heard the term but  

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I’ll just wrap up by saying the work I did 
was basically translating English um these  

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nuclear terms all of the complicated stuff into 
simple language and then further translating them  

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graphically into a paper product that people could 
easily take home and and use to understand what  

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was going to happen to their body so that’s what 
they wanted to know so I helped to develop uh this  

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thing called a radiation monitoring project that 
was to help to educate people on the the issues  

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they wanted to know about um so that came out 
of the organizing to fight the uranium mine so  

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the things people really need on the ground are 
not necessarily the things we think are important  

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but somehow we have to figure out how to mix 
them or do both at the same time somehow to  

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honor what the community needs are and then at the 
same time hopefully stop the uranium mine stop the  

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hydrogen Hub or incinerator or you know whatever 
the community is fighting because what they’re  

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fighting is also cause causing all these other 
problems uh societal problems economic health  

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and and that’s what they’re really dealing with 
on a day-to-day basis so going to Congress going  

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to these meetings that’s not a priority when 
their people are their kids their Elders are  

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coughing and sick and it’s really heartbreaking 
so so that’s why I do what I do is you know I’m  

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kind of in the Middle where I’m in this city 
and have access to some of the information and  

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the resources and then take it back home and and 
then engage in things like this or the legislature  

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um yeah so that’s a little bit about my work 
sorry I went on I’ll um stop there thank you

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yeah thanks Leona I mean I know that you 
do so much so thank you for that snippet  

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um just a reminder for folks to follow 
everybody here that’s speaking and and  

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if they are tied to organizations to 
to follow that but also the individuals  

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um because folks like Leona are doing this on 
an individual basis I think that’s important  

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um let’s hear from Shaw Julia 
and then we’ll bring Jonathan on

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um I can relate to a lot of what Leona said about 
kind of not being in the space but being in this  

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space um in my case I don’t know that they would 
consider me reconnecting I was born and raised in  

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Oregon to migrant parents but my first language 
was their language and that afforded me a really  

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different experience with my upbringing because 
it was during the 80s into early 90s that my  

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parents were involved and I’m a movement baby 
so my parents were involved in anti-nuclear  

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work and demilitarization work the islands 
that my family is from Palau are part of the  

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region known as Micronesia and that includes the 
Federated States of Micronesia and the Republic  

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of the Marshall Islands as well as for the three 
countries Marshall Islands Palau and FSM those are  

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known as freely Associated States or they fall 
under the compact to free association which if  

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anyone ever hears this free association is not 
free for anybody especially not for the people  

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on the non-us side of it um so part of the work 
I do with Pacifica Uprising and just on my own  

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um and it’s kind of the root of a lot of the 
climate Justice and bodily autonomy work is  

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explaining our history and how we got to this 
point and explaining that the compact the free  

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association those are three separate treaties 
that the United States has with us and obviously  

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we know the United States treaties it doesn’t go 
well for anybody ours happened within my lifetime  

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and so we um regained sovereignty in 1994 
and Independence Day is just us being in our  

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dependence on the United States um so that’s where 
a lot of the work centers from and then showing  

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because we are such as Paul country Palau right 
now I think has a population of roughly 20 000 or  

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just under it as a whole country and that’s with I 
believe a third of the population being foreigners  

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and so for the kids in the diaspora who grew up 
in the diaspora like me we don’t learn anything  

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about where we’re from unless our parents teach us 
and a lot of times because our parents are trying  

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to assimilate we don’t learn things and so the 
work I’d be doing is trying to make our history  

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and our culture more tangible and accessible 
and relating it to what’s going on here because  

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being part of diaspora also means that we’re 
settlers on indigenous land and I talk about  

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how in order for us to connect in order for 
us to honor our ancestors and our heritage we  

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have to stand in solidarity with the indigenous 
people whose land we’re on and trying to show  

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the cultural relevance and importance there is an 
opportunity for a lot of kids who I mean nieces  

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nephews cousins who don’t speak the language who 
don’t know even the basics of the culture this is  

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a this is a starting place that makes sense and so 
being able to show up whether it’s on line three  

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or whether it was in DC whether it was in Atlanta 
and being part of those movements and showing that  

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Pacifica people especially in diaspora we have a 
space there and it’s it’s our responsibility to be  

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in these spaces to uphold and uplift and amplify 
the other indigenous people the people whose land  

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we’re on because my ancestors were alive they 
would be like yes of course you have to do that  

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you’re I’m here and so it’s teaching and making 
culture relevant based on the spaces that we’re  

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in and also teaching them our political history 
because not a lot of people have the time to sit  

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down and read a 300 page document that basically 
explains why we’re independent but we don’t get  

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to make decisions why our currency is U.S 
currency why our post office is the US Post  

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Office why re we’re independent but rely on the 
United States for so many things and at the same  

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time they continue to throw us under the bus 
and so teaching those things teaching that the  

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United States military is not the only option 
to get off of an island teaching people that  

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what the United States military does 
what the Department of Defense does is  

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devastating our natural resources what it’s doing 
to the land and how it’s now written into our  

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treaties that we’ve lost so much ability to have 
that self-determination despite being told that  

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we’re Sovereign and so teaching them that history 
and showing how it’s very parallel to the history  

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here and why these things connect and why we need 
to work together informing that cohesive voice  

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and like doing the work um that’s really kind 
of like the root of where this comes from and  

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um tying it in with bodily autonomy 
and showing people how like and this  

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was taught to me by one of my best friends 
that I can’t believe I never thought of but  

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like everything spiritual is practical 
everything practical is spiritual and so  

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things that we take for granted things 
we don’t think about when it comes to  

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um like sustainability and to food sovereignty 
and to food security how that fell apart for us  

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at home because of colonization because of where 
the military is now and what they’re doing to us  

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now and tying that into we live in the United 
States now this is how it’s the same thing is  

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impacting people and building relationships off 
of that so that we can work together because  

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obviously more voices more bodies is the last 
thing they want to see from essence of course  

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we want to upset people in positions of power and 
authority but that’s a bulk of the work I do and  

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if I do a good enough job I will work myself 
out of a job and the next generation will come  

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in and take over for me and I can just drink 
tea and lay in bed and be like look at them  

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they’re so amazing because I love gen Z so much 
they’re so amazing and that’s my feel thank you

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thank you so much chef I think that it was 
like super inspiring and I didn’t realize you  

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were from Palau or something um yeah Julia 
do you want to go next and then Jonathan

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yeah yeah just uh I wanna appreciate 
everything that Sean Leona have shared  

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um in terms of like the why why 
we get involved in this work or  

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um this continuation of historic indigenous 
resistance and Uprising it’s just like really  

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inspiring um especially since uh sometimes I 
know that we feel like we’re up against so much  

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um to be aligned in that way is really um is 
really awesome but yeah so um just real quickly  

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just some of the work that we’ve been involved 
in here in New Mexico or so-called New Mexico  

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um our region is very resource rich in in fact so 
much that it’s become um a energy sacrifice Zone  

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um a lot of the times we say like New 
Mexico is Ground Zero for a lot of  

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um continuing energy um infrastructure 
but also like new energy infrastructure  

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um some of us in our organizations has even said 
that uh like where the guinea pigs have you know  

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emerging uh Technologies around energy development 
and energy storage and production and so  

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um we had really started our work um in Coalition 
with the greater Chaco uh Coalition that is  

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um geogra in terms of the geography that’s the 
uh Northwestern corner of New Mexico or what they  

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call like the four corners area or the San Juan 
Basin and this is a highly uh highly productive  

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oil and gas extractive area and has been for 
some time now I think since um the uh early  

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1900s oil has been extracted from that region but 
um within that area also has a large uh indigenous  

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population mostly Danae folks have been um living 
and occupying in that region for some time now but  

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um for Pueblo people there’s also a very important 
sacred site like right in the middle of all of  

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this uh Devastation and that’s Chaco Canyon and 
so it’s been a it’s been a movement where we are  

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um demanding the phase out of fossil fuels 
and the cleanup and Remediation of those areas  

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um but also the protection of cultural 
and historic Landscapes that um have many  

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indigenous stakeholders involved tribal Nations 
Sovereign tribal Nations who are oftentimes  

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um fighting for free prior informed consent and 
to be a part of full cultural landscape planning  

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um because while it’s been under the federal 
jurisdiction there’s just been a lot of um a lot  

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of environmental and health impacts in the area so 
um you know moving into this uh this conversation  

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in this narrative around false Solutions we are 
now facing a lot of new energy infrastructure as  

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um you know a neoliberal agenda would like us 
to think that we’re in the beginning stages  

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of a just transition But ultimately a lot of the 
times we are just continuing the fossil fuel era  

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um by way of carbon capture and sequestration or 
blue hydrogen or um you know using those different  

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types of energy Technologies to uh invest more 
dollars into just you know strengthening and  

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continuing this like network of infrastructure 
that’s meant to just extract um and so a lot  

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of our work now is just really trying to unpack 
like how how this even began in the first place  

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um you know tying its roots directly to uh 
colonialism and systems of Oppression and  

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um you know just the way that colonialism 
Trends over time um we’re seeing that in the  

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midst of climate change our government is really 
focusing on protecting like small portions of  

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biodiversity But continuing to extract a you know 
business as usual or using other types of Market  

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based mechanisms to you know reach Net Zero 
pledges and offset carbon at different areas  

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of the world and so really just seeing how 
Insidious global capitalism it continues to be  

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um but also recognizing how indigenous resistance 
and uh people of color mobilization and Frontline  

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Community analysis is really like what’s uh um 
what’s the what’s you know doing its part to  

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dismantle those oppressive systems and so that’s 
been a lot of the work that we’ve been doing of  

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public action Alliance but of course none of that 
would be um able to be like accomplished without  

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being in Coalition with other organizations like 
New Mexico no-fault Solutions like Yucca like Hood  

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week in the hot house and then I even think uh 
by way of other large coalitions like uh people  

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versus fossil fuels has also been a mechanism for 
us to continue to State our demands of keeping it  

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in the ground no false Solutions and a real 
just economic transition for for all of us so  

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I’ll go ahead and stop there and let Jonathan 
take over yeah thank you so much it’s awesome  

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to spend this evening with some badass matriarchs 
from communities across across the world so yeah  

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again my name is Jonathan Juarez Alonso 
I’m from the bubbles of Laguna and this  

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letter uh both of which are just outside of 
so-called Albuquerque Here In Tua territories  

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um I really got involved in the work through 
journalism I was actually the first place that  

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I got involved and it’s still kind of like a side 
passion of mine but I was at generation Justice  

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which is a project of kunm our local public 
radio station and was basically kind of just  

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a correspondent going out to different community 
events and protests and covering you know kind  

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of covering the movement from the outside and 
a lot of what we focused on there was you know  

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narrative shifting and making sure that we’re you 
know telling our stories from our perspective and  

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the perspectives that we want to actually you 
know be uplifting rather than you know what  

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opposition or what you know the white mainstream 
is constantly wanting to say about us we want to  

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make sure they’re you know kind of disrupting 
that flow and putting out the media that  

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our communities want to see as well so you 
know I joined generation Justice I was like 13.  

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um I can’t do math at the moment but then in 2016 
uh that’s when I actually went to Standing Rock  

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um as like a journalist um and was able to do 
interviews with water protectors who had been  

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arrested and other you know indigenous Frontline 
folks that were holding that ground there  

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um but that was really I would say where my shift 
was from you know being behind the camera and kind  

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of covering these stories to then okay well now I 
want to actually kind of be in front of the camera  

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I want to be involved and actually like doing the 
work and so I came back home to tiwa territories  

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uh really kind of just like charged up this is 
also you know the year of the 2016 election uh  

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which you know polarized and just kind of brought 
so much uh just so much into like the political  

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Spotlight um so you know that kind of that mindset 
drove me into getting involved with you know  

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almost every organization here in Albuquerque I 
think a lot of young activists kind of have that  

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stage where they’re like in like almost like 
a little bit of everything and it’s a little  

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hectic but then you kind of find your place and 
you settle down and you figure out exactly what  

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you want to be doing um so for me um I was doing 
you know youth-led organizing from the beginning  

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um I was really noticing that in these spaces 
um you know there’s a lot of ageism towards  

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young people that you know we don’t want to 
you know take take young people seriously we  

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don’t want to give them a space at the table 
um you know we’ve even heard of some of our  

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elected officials say you know they can’t vote 
so you know they basically don’t matter to them  

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um and so you know all these other things but 
uh going you know that mindset then driving me  

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to kind of create my own organization spaces 
um and I was doing that from like 2019 to 2021  

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um and then like I said in 2021 I was uh 
brought on for you know staff for Yucca  

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um but in 2019 Yucca actually formed um kind of 
as our community’s response to the climate crisis  

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and to you know calls coming from across the 
world that we need to be taking you know these  

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Mission reduction standards and you know keeping 
fossil fuels fracking moratoriums just these bold  

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pieces of action that we need to be taking 
them extremely seriously especially in States  

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like New Mexico where we’re one of the largest 
contributors to Global emissions Global emissions  

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um so it was actually you know uh primarily 
indigenous two-spirit queer young people from  

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Northern New Mexico that actually spent um a week 
long uh like in a week-long strategic planning uh  

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training uh we have we hosted every year now 
it’s called our um El Puente Summer Leadership  

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Academy it’s actually been hosted every year by 
our parent organization earthcare but yucco was  

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formed in 2019 out of that Leadership Academy 
and has really you know gone on to continue  

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the call for those original demand of keeping 
fossil fuels in the ground and you know a rapid  

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transition to a renewable renewable economy um 
and you know kind of back to the question um how  

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we do this is you know really through a diversity 
of tactics for us so and I think that’s you know  

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something that Yucca does a really beautiful 
job of exemplifying um we have you know some  

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more theatrical actions where we staged actual 
mock Guillotines outside our state capitol where  

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the blades the ropes that were holding the blades 
were frozen in ice to kind of you know symbolize  

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the time and you know the time factor and 
how inaction today will directly lead to  

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uh you know deadly consequences to young people 
primarily indigenous young people in the future  

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um we’ve also you know we’ve had a civil 
disobedience actions where um when we delivered  

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our demands we delivered them um in I believe 
it was September it was a week after the climate  

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strike so it was like September 30th of 29 19 and 
we gave Governor Lou hungerston a 30-day deadline  

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to take action before you know we would return um 
and so you know put put things into context uh in  

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our demands there’s a lot of different courses 
of action that could be could have been taken  

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um the easiest of which would have just you 
know been to declare a climate emergency  

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um in the state of New Mexico which is essentially 
you know the stroke of a pen and you know that  

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30-day deadline came up and we still hadn’t seen 
any action come out of the governor’s office so  

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we actually um hosted a civil disobedience 
action where 21 of our members adult allies  

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of our organization were actually arrested in 
the governor’s office just for their charges  

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to then just be then be dismissed in court by 
the judge um so you know Civil Disobedience  

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protesting direct action we also as I mentioned 
I’m the policy lead so we also definitely uh play  

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uh this political game that is very frustrating 
and as I mentioned you know we don’t necessarily  

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see policy or this political Cycle System to you 
know be the end-all be-all or to be the mechanism  

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that’s going to bring out you know the liberation 
of our communities um but also recognizing that we  

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have to participate in a harm reduction uh in a 
harm reduction stance and and uh from that space  

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where we’re you know recognizing that while you 
know these systems were never made for us they’re  

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never going to benefit us if we don’t show up 
to participate in opposition the people that  

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don’t have our interests in mind at all we’ll 
kind of have full reign of the conversation  

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um so you know with that we’ve been 
showing up to all of the different  

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um committee hearings for different pieces of 
legislation that we’ve been supporting uh things  

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like local Choice energy and the uranium of the 
prohibition of uranium storage or a nuclear waste  

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storage here in New Mexico something I think we’re 
going to talk about tonight as well but also you  

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know bills that we a pose like the Advanced Energy 
technology act other bills that we definitely see  

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as false Solutions because you know they include 
these Technologies like carbon capture and  

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sequestration like offsets like Net Zero pledges 
um all of which we’ve seen across the world are  

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just being used to prolong the fossil fuels life 
here in New Mexico and across the global South  

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um so you know I think for me what really 
drives um the passion for the work is you  

362
00:43:43,080 –> 00:43:46,980
know remembering and I think I think all of us 
obviously relate to this um but just remembering  

363
00:43:46,980 –> 00:43:52,020
where we come from um the you know the lines 
of resistance that all of us have been born  

364
00:43:52,020 –> 00:43:58,260
into I was also born into a movement family 
um but also you know as a Pueblo person um  

365
00:43:58,260 –> 00:44:07,920
really honoring and trying to you know just 
honor and live out the Legacy being a descendant  

366
00:44:07,920 –> 00:44:14,700
of Pueblo Revenue Pueblo revolutionaries 
sorry um just you know recognizing the  

367
00:44:14,700 –> 00:44:21,480
in 1680 there was you know a massive Rebellion 
against the Spanish conquistadors here in  

368
00:44:21,480 –> 00:44:28,260
New Mexico and it was a unification of several 
tribes that didn’t even speak the same languages  

369
00:44:29,340 –> 00:44:34,560
um but to see you know to remember that history 
and know that you know that was our community’s  

370
00:44:34,560 –> 00:44:40,500
response to at the time you know we had seen the 
Spanish as completely disrupting our way of life  

371
00:44:40,500 –> 00:44:46,920
that had been in balance with our natural world 
for since time immemorial and particularly their  

372
00:44:46,920 –> 00:44:51,840
taxes that um because of the droughts that 
we have here in New Mexico the Spanish were  

373
00:44:51,840 –> 00:44:57,180
unprepared we were they began taxing food 
at a rate that we could no longer afford  

374
00:44:57,900 –> 00:45:01,920
um and so that really you know kind of pushed 
things over the edge but to see you know that  

375
00:45:01,920 –> 00:45:08,940
type of resistance in response to that disruption 
of you know our way of life and then to think you  

376
00:45:08,940 –> 00:45:15,000
know I think uh think about this all the time but 
if my ancestors you know could could see today I  

377
00:45:15,000 –> 00:45:20,280
know that they can but physically if you know if 
they could be here and see the Rio Grande running  

378
00:45:20,280 –> 00:45:26,940
dry year after year or if they could walk into the 
grand Cuba at choco and see the fracking wheels  

379
00:45:26,940 –> 00:45:33,720
and see the ways in which industry and um you 
know colonialism have continued to prey on what we  

380
00:45:33,720 –> 00:45:40,320
have always deemed to be sacred and protected and 
sacred uh as sacred um and I wonder you know what  

381
00:45:40,320 –> 00:45:46,020
their response would be knowing that in the past 
their response was actually the only successful  

382
00:45:46,020 –> 00:45:54,480
Rebellion against the U.S U.S Empire in Northern 
America um but also you know something that we  

383
00:45:54,480 –> 00:46:01,740
to the state can see we’re one of the only tribes 
that are still where uh where we were found upon  

384
00:46:01,740 –> 00:46:08,100
first Contact and as a result we still remain we 
still maintain so much of you know our languages  

385
00:46:08,100 –> 00:46:13,620
and our ceremonies that have existed since time 
immemorial as a direct result of that Rebellion  

386
00:46:14,340 –> 00:46:22,740
um and so you know carrying on that Legacy um and 
that passion uh in this fight um and yeah I as you  

387
00:46:22,740 –> 00:46:27,120
know also a quick note um this is not a first 
you know this is like second generation for us  

388
00:46:27,840 –> 00:46:33,300
um I uh being from the Pueblo Laguna we have 
the largest uh uranium mine jackpile uranium  

389
00:46:33,300 –> 00:46:38,880
mine is the largest open-air uranium mine in the 
world uh to the states and EPA Superfund Site  

390
00:46:39,420 –> 00:46:44,940
um but I actually um my family was part of a 
lawsuit that made it to the Supreme Court that was  

391
00:46:44,940 –> 00:46:50,880
ultimately dismissed because they couldn’t provide 
a legal deed to the land that we’ve occupied uh  

392
00:46:50,880 –> 00:46:57,420
for centuries um but uh then you know kind of 
as a result and my grandfather growing up in  

393
00:46:58,080 –> 00:47:03,720
um you know in that environment of you know 
resisting pollution and you know colonization  

394
00:47:03,720 –> 00:47:09,000
of our lands um he you know would ultimately 
move and relocate his family to Albuquerque  

395
00:47:09,660 –> 00:47:13,920
um and so recognizing that that environmental 
racism you know directly did push my family  

396
00:47:13,920 –> 00:47:18,660
off of our homelands um but yeah that’s you 
know that’s what led me to this fight that’s  

397
00:47:18,660 –> 00:47:24,060
a little Spiel on Yucca and our diversity 
of tactics that we deploy to pursue this  

398
00:47:24,060 –> 00:47:28,920
um these demands that we’re pushing for um yeah 
I’m gonna hop off and let Julia get back on

399
00:47:34,380 –> 00:47:42,000
thanks Jonathan I mean I think everybody 
had so much to share and offer and I just  

400
00:47:42,000 –> 00:47:47,160
you know appreciate you all for you know 
spending this evening having this event  

401
00:47:48,060 –> 00:47:53,940
um on Instagram um I really want to just also 
just shout out Hoodwinked for allowing us to have  

402
00:47:53,940 –> 00:48:01,260
this space because really what we’re doing not 
only is just conversing you know we’re sharing  

403
00:48:01,260 –> 00:48:06,000
tactics we’re sharing information and I think 
that’s really what the collective is all about  

404
00:48:06,960 –> 00:48:12,960
um is about sharing our stories and learning 
the different ways in which we can continue  

405
00:48:12,960 –> 00:48:19,560
to build a resistance that is Grassroots that 
is youth-led and Indigenous and bypoc centered  

406
00:48:20,700 –> 00:48:27,840
um I wanted to see if the audience had 
questions to comment um you know and then  

407
00:48:27,840 –> 00:48:33,120
you know the speakers too if there was any 
quick Reflections as we wait for some of the  

408
00:48:33,120 –> 00:48:42,240
questions to come in from the audience um yeah 
any Reflections that folks had hearing each other

409
00:48:49,620 –> 00:48:57,840
I think for me it’s like hearing everyone’s like 
stories or ways in which they connect with this  

410
00:48:57,840 –> 00:49:06,960
type of work it’s just a reminder that on a global 
scale a lot of these uh stories of displacement or  

411
00:49:07,980 –> 00:49:16,560
um you know entering into these advocacy 
types of lifestyles are very similar  

412
00:49:17,940 –> 00:49:27,060
um all over the world and so um knowing that um 
knowing the different ways in which colonialism  

413
00:49:27,060 –> 00:49:33,240
has impacted our communities um still 
to this day is just a really important  

414
00:49:34,260 –> 00:49:38,400
um analysis that I think a lot of 
us have been really trying to Center  

415
00:49:39,420 –> 00:49:46,560
um because a lot of the times you know Frontline 
communities indigenous youth environmental justice  

416
00:49:46,560 –> 00:49:54,840
communities don’t always have a seat at the table 
and are often being spoken over or undermined  

417
00:49:54,840 –> 00:50:02,160
um in terms of how we’re going to address these 
issues in the future and I just want to point  

418
00:50:02,160 –> 00:50:09,540
out that a lot of the false Solutions work is 
de-centering you know this more like European  

419
00:50:09,540 –> 00:50:16,800
and or a white settler analysis and making sure 
that indigenous peoples are leading this fight  

420
00:50:16,800 –> 00:50:25,680
that Frontline folks are also included in any 
sort of future planning that has to do with  

421
00:50:26,280 –> 00:50:34,140
um resource extraction or you just whatever 
whatever it is um it’s it’s been named not  

422
00:50:34,140 –> 00:50:40,080
just like in the Grassroots organizing 
movement but even through the recent  

423
00:50:40,740 –> 00:50:48,120
um ipcc reports it’s clearly states that there 
needs to be diverse stakeholder engagement and  

424
00:50:48,120 –> 00:50:56,280
also the utilization of indigenous knowledge and 
worldview to also address climate crisis and so  

425
00:50:56,280 –> 00:51:03,600
just want to acknowledge that um you know there’s 
folks like here indigenous folks here that are  

426
00:51:04,380 –> 00:51:12,300
um have dedicated their lives to this work 
and are still like like trying to Center  

427
00:51:13,140 –> 00:51:23,340
um their and their people’s analysis it’s just 
um a really important aspect of this work that I  

428
00:51:23,340 –> 00:51:30,600
think is just a huge system change for many but 
um I just yeah again just wanted to acknowledge  

429
00:51:30,600 –> 00:51:37,080
that after listening to everybody’s uh sort of 
origin stories for getting involved in this work

430
00:51:43,680 –> 00:51:51,240
shot are you gonna um comment I wasn’t sure like 
right before Julia spoke if you were gonna all  

431
00:51:51,240 –> 00:52:00,000
right I’ve had a question for my fellow speakers 
and that’s for youth who are interested in getting  

432
00:52:00,000 –> 00:52:11,700
involved but and I think it’s fairly accurate to 
say that advocacy activism and any sort of social  

433
00:52:11,700 –> 00:52:19,200
justice work when you’re doing it within cultures 
that are very connected to like their Heritage  

434
00:52:19,200 –> 00:52:26,280
their traditions something that we come across a 
lot is having our opposition be some of our elders  

435
00:52:26,280 –> 00:52:33,600
and have you come across that and how do you speak 
to indigenous youth who are interested but they’ve  

436
00:52:33,600 –> 00:52:40,560
had maybe not the best experiences in bringing 
these things up to whether it’s elders and their  

437
00:52:40,560 –> 00:52:50,940
family their Community or olders who are just 
very like interested in like not seeing change

438
00:53:01,020 –> 00:53:05,400
yeah I know that Jonathan you know 
had brought up the public Revolt  

439
00:53:06,000 –> 00:53:12,660
um as like a really important part of our 
history and um I think a lot of like young  

440
00:53:12,660 –> 00:53:18,420
people like Pueblo people that have been 
wanting to get more involved in this work I  

441
00:53:18,420 –> 00:53:24,600
acknowledge that history and want to make sure 
that it remains relevant in our fight against  

442
00:53:25,500 –> 00:53:36,540
um extractivism um I feel like that is like 
an important um way for us to to move about  

443
00:53:36,540 –> 00:53:45,240
spaces where our elders aren’t always in line 
or always agree with like direct action or with  

444
00:53:45,900 –> 00:53:53,580
um being unapologetically uh in opposition 
of capitalism or you know whatever it is  

445
00:53:54,360 –> 00:54:03,660
um I think like the like young people have been 
really embracing um our history of resistance and  

446
00:54:04,560 –> 00:54:14,280
um it gives me a lot of it gives me 
a lot of I guess Solace knowing that  

447
00:54:15,180 –> 00:54:22,500
um that way of thinking is changing you know 
and I do feel like even though like there may  

448
00:54:22,500 –> 00:54:29,340
be moments where Elders do push back on the 
way in which we’re approaching the climate  

449
00:54:29,340 –> 00:54:36,960
crisis there are definitely those that support 
um young people in this work and by uplifting  

450
00:54:36,960 –> 00:54:43,440
these concept of these concepts of it making 
intergenerational spaces also lends opportunity  

451
00:54:43,440 –> 00:54:50,520
for elders to learn from the youth as like the 
youth are supposed to learn from our elders like  

452
00:54:50,520 –> 00:54:57,780
there’s this reciprocity that happens when you’re 
building those very intentional intergenerational  

453
00:54:57,780 –> 00:55:05,100
or multi-generational organizing spaces I 
find that as in a really effective tool for  

454
00:55:05,100 –> 00:55:11,940
trying to continue to teach our people like why 
it’s so important for us to take really strong  

455
00:55:11,940 –> 00:55:21,360
and bold stances um to to address climate and 
to engage with climate mitigation strategies but  

456
00:55:22,320 –> 00:55:29,220
um we have to always like remember our 
history keep it relevant and I think that  

457
00:55:29,820 –> 00:55:37,260
um you know now in this new tech age we have a lot 
more accessibility to resources and tools and I  

458
00:55:37,260 –> 00:55:45,360
think that’s also um giving us more opportunities 
to connect with who our ancestors were and what  

459
00:55:45,360 –> 00:55:53,100
they fought for and why they fought for it so but 
I would also maybe I’ll jump off and let Jonathan  

460
00:55:53,100 –> 00:55:59,460
jump back onto if he wants to speak to any of the 
youth work that he’s been doing with yucca yeah

461
00:56:01,500 –> 00:56:10,320
okay just to respond I guess um um can 
can you repeat the question not a problem  

462
00:56:11,400 –> 00:56:15,780
um in our community we often have youth who may  

463
00:56:15,780 –> 00:56:18,600
be interested they show some 
interest and then they come up

464
00:56:21,600 –> 00:56:26,460
on elders whether it’s traditional 
leaders Community leaders politicians  

465
00:56:26,460 –> 00:56:31,560
people that we’re supposed to look 
up to who do not have our future  

466
00:56:32,460 –> 00:56:38,520
in mind as they make their decisions and that 
can be really disheartening and really just  

467
00:56:38,520 –> 00:56:45,060
take away all of the wind in your sales when you 
want to do this work and so I was wondering have  

468
00:56:45,060 –> 00:56:49,140
you come up against that within your own 
communities and how have you dealt with it

469
00:56:51,180 –> 00:57:00,180
um so thank you thanks for repeating that I I 
guess just to um jump in before Jonathan responds  

470
00:57:00,180 –> 00:57:06,540
I think um I’m I’m a little bit in the middle 
as a I’m not a youth anymore and I and I don’t  

471
00:57:06,540 –> 00:57:16,140
feel like an elder um I’m kind of I feel like uh 
needing to bridge the gap sometimes um for me as  

472
00:57:16,140 –> 00:57:22,320
a dinette person I this is my personal perspective 
I don’t know if other Danette people I don’t speak  

473
00:57:22,320 –> 00:57:28,980
for everybody obviously none of us do but um I 
kind of break it down into like three different  

474
00:57:30,000 –> 00:57:37,080
um major audiences I I don’t know if that’s the 
right word because on Navajo Nation we have our  

475
00:57:37,080 –> 00:57:45,120
government um which they’re the elected officials 
whether people vote or not I mean that’s also a  

476
00:57:45,120 –> 00:57:52,140
colonial construct um so there’s the government 
that was put in place specifically to sign the  

477
00:57:52,140 –> 00:57:59,520
fossil fuel leases back in the early 20th 
century and then we have the traditional  

478
00:57:59,520 –> 00:58:09,420
Elders so like medicine people um knowledge 
holders um so folks that are still doing and  

479
00:58:09,420 –> 00:58:14,880
practicing our old traditional ways like Jonathan 
was mentioning and then um and then and then I and  

480
00:58:14,880 –> 00:58:21,000
then this other group we might call I I call 
the Grassroots so that would be us activists  

481
00:58:21,000 –> 00:58:26,580
who kind of bridge the gap between tradition 
and then advocating in the political world  

482
00:58:27,600 –> 00:58:32,460
um and oftentimes we’re fighting the Navajo Nation 
so like right now the Navajo Nation government  

483
00:58:33,480 –> 00:58:40,080
um they want to develop hydrogen and helium and 
whatever they can because of Economic Development  

484
00:58:40,080 –> 00:58:46,080
the good thing is in that the Navajo Nation has 
a law against uranium mining so that always helps  

485
00:58:46,080 –> 00:58:51,960
my work and that’s because uranium mining has 
uranium mining has killed a lot of my people  

486
00:58:52,920 –> 00:58:58,080
um and we’re still dealing with all of the 
radioactive waste so it’s easy for me to  

487
00:58:58,080 –> 00:59:04,620
fight uranium issues on Navajo because of the 
law but there’s a lot of complications because  

488
00:59:04,620 –> 00:59:12,420
of colonization in the North western part of the 
state that’s called the checkerboard area so the  

489
00:59:12,420 –> 00:59:18,960
laws are it’s extremely complex because whoever 
regulates depends on which jurisdiction you’re  

490
00:59:18,960 –> 00:59:26,100
on and sometimes that’s different on the surface 
and then below the surface so like water rights  

491
00:59:26,100 –> 00:59:35,340
or mineral rights might not be the same might not 
be owned by the owned uh you know um and that’s  

492
00:59:35,340 –> 00:59:43,620
the other thing is ownership the Navajo Nation 
hi everyone so we just got um our kicked off our  

493
00:59:43,620 –> 00:59:53,340
lives so sorry for the folks who are watching 
um I don’t think anyone’s tuned in yet so  

494
00:59:54,540 –> 01:00:03,000
okay we got some folks tuning in I’m gonna try to 
re-add our speakers Hello friends who are joining  

495
01:00:04,260 –> 01:00:08,280
um Alejandra who is hosting is taking 
a little break but she might hop back  

496
01:00:08,280 –> 01:00:14,820
on in a bit and some folks had to go but I 
want to give our speakers time to finish up  

497
01:00:16,260 –> 01:00:24,120
um so if our speakers are able to 
request to join that would be great since  

498
01:00:25,740 –> 01:00:29,460
I’m not sure how to add you but I 
will try to figure that out right now

499
01:00:31,560 –> 01:00:35,520
um okay so our speakers need 
to join before I can add them

500
01:00:51,600 –> 01:00:57,360
so thanks folks for just watching me be 
here until we get our speakers back on

501
01:01:09,780 –> 01:01:10,620
okay

502
01:01:14,880 –> 01:01:20,820
Shaw I’m trying to accept to you

503
01:01:24,360 –> 01:01:33,900
hello we’re back we’re back and 
Robert okay you could joined so

504
01:01:38,460 –> 01:01:39,960
and

505
01:01:43,260 –> 01:01:48,840
all right let’s see if we can add Jonathan

506
01:01:52,800 –> 01:01:59,460
yeah we can on there we can have some really 
great events happening this week for the 10  

507
01:01:59,460 –> 01:02:04,860
people watching if you’re in New York City you 
could go in person and there’s another one online  

508
01:02:06,180 –> 01:02:10,740
um Alejandra if you want to join 
from your personal account feel  

509
01:02:10,740 –> 01:02:16,260
free if not we can wait and 
see we can wait a little um

510
01:02:21,360 –> 01:02:25,200
Jonathan if that’s you as 
Yuka feel free to request  

511
01:02:25,200 –> 01:02:28,020
to join I’m trying to add you but it’s not working

512
01:02:35,460 –> 01:02:37,500
hi Julio and others

513
01:02:39,660 –> 01:02:43,440
um Shaw in the meantime oh 
someone else there’s alejandia

514
01:02:46,320 –> 01:02:53,280
is there anything you wanted to share um 
when we got cut off by Instagram hello again

515
01:03:00,660 –> 01:03:08,640
um I was enjoying everyone’s answers um for us we 
definitely come up against opposition within the  

516
01:03:08,640 –> 01:03:15,360
community from political leaders Business Leaders 
even traditional leaders and it’s rough because  

517
01:03:15,360 –> 01:03:21,300
these are the people that you want to believe 
have your best interest as a community in mind  

518
01:03:21,300 –> 01:03:28,380
in their decision making and they often seem to 
be in our case um the first ones ready to sell  

519
01:03:28,380 –> 01:03:35,520
us out whether it’s for cryptocurrency [Music] 
um or whatever other false solution they claim  

520
01:03:35,520 –> 01:03:42,300
is going to save our Islands which are just 
working to get us underwater faster thank you

521
01:03:49,140 –> 01:03:55,140
yeah I mean if I can just add really quick you 
know I don’t know Jonathan if you wanted to add  

522
01:03:55,140 –> 01:04:01,800
but you know I feel like during our legislative 
session we are kind of always undermined um our  

523
01:04:01,800 –> 01:04:08,220
analysis specifically like on things like hydrogen 
or whatever and it’s really um disheartening  

524
01:04:08,220 –> 01:04:15,300
because it’s like you know there’s always a call 
for engagement of younger organizers and when it  

525
01:04:15,300 –> 01:04:21,180
actually happens they write us off and that could 
be politicians or other organizations and really  

526
01:04:21,180 –> 01:04:27,420
it’s an elitism that’s like based on white 
supremacy and it’s just it’s awful and I feel  

527
01:04:27,420 –> 01:04:32,760
like you know um I don’t know if they’re still on 
but I saw them on previously but it’s been good to  

528
01:04:32,760 –> 01:04:39,960
be in in community with folks who were um in Los 
Cardenas Institute uh because both Sophia Martinez  

529
01:04:39,960 –> 01:04:45,420
and Richard Moore were there for like the first 
people color summons and they were there when you  

530
01:04:45,420 –> 01:04:50,460
know they were young people trying to build a lot 
of these spaces that now have unfortunately been  

531
01:04:50,460 –> 01:04:57,480
co-opted by political Elite and I think that right 
now is the time for us to regain that power back  

532
01:04:58,320 –> 01:05:06,060
um but Jonathan all the two speak to yeah totally 
um yeah I was thinking about your question that  

533
01:05:06,060 –> 01:05:11,760
you asked just before I don’t know what happened 
this is really weird um but I think you know uh  

534
01:05:11,760 –> 01:05:17,520
for me I remember especially here and I know 
it varies by family and Community obviously  

535
01:05:17,520 –> 01:05:23,700
but I’m I’m in my family the only I’m only the 
second generation out of U.S boarding schools  

536
01:05:23,700 –> 01:05:31,800
and so to remember that like our elders today 
very much for survival learned assimilation and  

537
01:05:31,800 –> 01:05:36,900
and were successfully colonized and so we’re doing 
unfortunately with our communities whether that’s  

538
01:05:36,900 –> 01:05:41,880
you know our spiritual leaders or just Elders in 
our communities or or our Governors or presidents  

539
01:05:42,780 –> 01:05:47,700
um you know dealing with unfortunately colonized 
people that think it’s you know they have this  

540
01:05:47,700 –> 01:05:54,480
mindset that it is okay to you know sacrifice 
our resources or our cultural heritage in the  

541
01:05:54,480 –> 01:06:00,420
name of profit or extraction or whatever that is 
um but also you know that’s really frustrating  

542
01:06:01,020 –> 01:06:05,400
um obviously but also remembering I think you 
know kind of like Julia was saying before she  

543
01:06:05,400 –> 01:06:10,860
had to hop off but honoring and remembering our 
ancestors as well um all of us you know come from  

544
01:06:10,860 –> 01:06:15,540
like I said earlier you know very resilient 
lines that obviously fought to still be here  

545
01:06:16,440 –> 01:06:22,440
um and so remembering you know those ancestors 
as well and and that they were you know what  

546
01:06:22,440 –> 01:06:27,660
they had to endure and push back against and that 
we’re just continuing that fight um and also you  

547
01:06:27,660 –> 01:06:34,800
know for young people in particular I think it’s 
really unique because you know we look at just  

548
01:06:34,800 –> 01:06:39,900
about every social movement throughout history 
and it’s our young people who are front and center  

549
01:06:39,900 –> 01:06:47,640
uh right now you know we see uh you know kind of 
hand in hand with uh calls for you know uh action  

550
01:06:47,640 –> 01:06:53,640
on climate from young people across the country 
we’re also seeing massive you know uprisings for  

551
01:06:53,640 –> 01:06:59,460
gun violence and gun legislation but also you know 
going back into history of things like the Chicano  

552
01:06:59,460 –> 01:07:05,160
uprisings and you know even the civil rights 
movement that all of these you know spaces and  

553
01:07:05,160 –> 01:07:10,620
movements were started by the young people um and 
they’ve been recently in Standing Rock uh started  

554
01:07:10,620 –> 01:07:18,420
you know by our our young people running all the 
way from North Dakota to DC um and so remembering  

555
01:07:18,420 –> 01:07:22,560
as young people that that’s kind of you know the 
the place in history that we hold that we’re we’ve  

556
01:07:22,560 –> 01:07:28,320
always continued to push back against you know 
these systems that have imposed whatever you  

557
01:07:28,320 –> 01:07:34,200
know whether it’s Reproductive Rights or whatever 
you know sovereignty rights whatever it is that  

558
01:07:34,200 –> 01:07:38,460
you know whatever they’re trying and force upon 
us that we’ve always been there to push back  

559
01:07:39,600 –> 01:07:42,600
um but yeah I think that’s that’s what I 
would say in terms of at least you know  

560
01:07:42,600 –> 01:07:48,540
kind of dealing with uh this colonized mindsets 
unfortunately I’ve definitely dealt with that  

561
01:07:48,540 –> 01:07:55,200
um from elders and Community but I also and 
it’s important for everybody to know I’ve also  

562
01:07:55,200 –> 01:08:01,920
you know had Elders come up to me crying because 
of the fact that they have to deal you know with  

563
01:08:01,920 –> 01:08:07,620
those mindsets at home that the these people that 
that they trust and that they you know that they  

564
01:08:07,620 –> 01:08:11,040
want to trust and that they want to believe in 
like you said believe that they have heard best  

565
01:08:11,040 –> 01:08:16,500
interests at hand unfortunately are falling into 
these false hydrogen schemes even though we’re  

566
01:08:16,500 –> 01:08:20,700
there you know even though they were there to 
say you know no this is a continuation of this  

567
01:08:20,700 –> 01:08:25,620
trade-off capitalist system that indigenous people 
have always been you know a bargaining chip in  

568
01:08:26,580 –> 01:08:32,160
um we’ve had to you know I think it’s it’s 
just important to remember both sides and  

569
01:08:32,160 –> 01:08:35,940
it’s it’s definitely really messy when you 
know in some of these communities too when we  

570
01:08:35,940 –> 01:08:41,520
get in you know we get into the money of it um 
like I know especially yeah exactly especially  

571
01:08:41,520 –> 01:08:46,320
um I think all of us now we get into you 
know what the money the perfectly can bring  

572
01:08:47,280 –> 01:08:52,920
um but I also know you know here in New Mexico 
we have Elders you know found murdered uh  

573
01:08:52,920 –> 01:08:57,600
with all that money uh just gone and so it’s 
it’s been you know in all different kinds of  

574
01:08:57,600 –> 01:09:01,620
words it’s just been violent uh upon you 
know just violence Upon Our communities  

575
01:09:02,760 –> 01:09:08,040
um and you know I think about you know we we 
have uh fracking reality realities towards  

576
01:09:08,040 –> 01:09:11,880
um here in New Mexico uh that if any 
of you all ever come out we’d love to  

577
01:09:11,880 –> 01:09:15,300
um you know facilitate and get you guys if 
that’s something you would want to participate  

578
01:09:16,380 –> 01:09:20,400
um but to see you know what this communities 
are enduring on the front line of the extraction  

579
01:09:21,360 –> 01:09:27,120
um it’s heartbreaking and it’s you know it’s 
important to see and recognize it in you know  

580
01:09:27,120 –> 01:09:31,380
there’s a community here in New Mexico and 
counselor New Mexico over a billion dollars  

581
01:09:31,380 –> 01:09:38,040
has been extracted in in the resources from 
this community and and then you go and you see  

582
01:09:38,040 –> 01:09:41,940
the community and you know you ask yourself 
that question has has this community really  

583
01:09:41,940 –> 01:09:46,920
benefited from you know over a billion dollars 
being extracted like industry likes to say and  

584
01:09:46,920 –> 01:09:50,400
taunt all the time you know that’s that’s what 
they’re doing for our state and then you go  

585
01:09:50,400 –> 01:09:54,480
see for yourself like is it really and it’s 
it’s not you know we still have communities  

586
01:09:54,480 –> 01:09:59,160
here that don’t have electricity that don’t 
have running water that you know are fighting  

587
01:09:59,160 –> 01:10:04,860
for these basic necessities and rights to be 
met every single day still in the year 2023  

588
01:10:05,940 –> 01:10:09,540
um but yeah I think yeah that’s that’s 
what I would add on to your question

589
01:10:13,800 –> 01:10:16,560
thank you so much those are amazing Answers by the  

590
01:10:16,560 –> 01:10:21,360
way I really appreciate it and I’m excited 
that people got to tune in and hear that  

591
01:10:23,340 –> 01:10:31,020
yeah sorry just to finish my previous thought and 
I’m so sorry Jonathan I don’t think my mute was on  

592
01:10:32,100 –> 01:10:40,560
um I made it made it snow so so to just to wrap 
up we have the government the colonial structure  

593
01:10:40,560 –> 01:10:47,100
we have our traditional elders and then we have a 
lot of um just the community folks um some people  

594
01:10:47,100 –> 01:10:57,000
engage in the political Mayhem some don’t um so 
for Navajo Nation specifically we are constantly  

595
01:10:57,000 –> 01:11:03,720
at odds with the government with the colonial 
government and the people who I the work that  

596
01:11:03,720 –> 01:11:10,380
I do and I’m sure this goes in line I I I don’t 
want to speak for Jonathan and Julia but I think  

597
01:11:10,380 –> 01:11:17,460
um all of us as indigenous people coming from 
you know some teachings and and things that  

598
01:11:17,460 –> 01:11:25,560
are our elders and our ancestors have maintained 
for Generations um I think for me that’s what the  

599
01:11:25,560 –> 01:11:34,320
work is about so it’s unfortunate that there’s 
uranium at sacred places um so this is one of  

600
01:11:34,320 –> 01:11:41,160
the big issues is protection of sacred sites um 
people argue will all of Mother Earth is sacred  

601
01:11:42,000 –> 01:11:49,020
um so we have a lot of our traditional ways 
intact that our elders the traditional leaders  

602
01:11:49,740 –> 01:11:57,000
um you know Advocate to protect while at the 
same time the government is the Navajo Nation  

603
01:11:57,000 –> 01:12:03,120
government is pushing for the fracking Jonathan 
was mentioning so when Jonathan’s talking about  

604
01:12:03,120 –> 01:12:12,660
Chaco Canyon my government wants to lessen the 
protections that were put on around Chaco because  

605
01:12:12,660 –> 01:12:20,760
those are thousand-year-old petroglyphs um that 
the entire architecture everything it needs to be  

606
01:12:20,760 –> 01:12:29,400
protected and maintained but because our colonial 
government is charged or thinks they have to  

607
01:12:29,400 –> 01:12:35,940
work toward economic development that’s that’s 
where things got messed up with colonization I  

608
01:12:35,940 –> 01:12:44,220
believe capitalism and all these other so-called 
priorities have really impacted our traditional  

609
01:12:44,220 –> 01:12:51,360
ways because we’re no longer dependent on you 
know rain water especially with all the pfos  

610
01:12:51,360 –> 01:13:00,060
now so so all of these things it’s up to us to 
educate our elders and it’s the hardest thing I  

611
01:13:00,060 –> 01:13:04,920
mean I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Congress 
or lobbied in your state capital or even in your  

612
01:13:04,920 –> 01:13:11,520
city council to me it’s the hardest thing to Lobby 
our elders in the Navajo Nation government because  

613
01:13:11,520 –> 01:13:18,060
those are the people I mean it’s easy for me to 
yell at a non-native person in a in the colonial  

614
01:13:18,060 –> 01:13:24,600
government it’s easy for me to protest in Santa 
Fe um and that kind of thing but to go home and  

615
01:13:24,600 –> 01:13:30,120
then have to convince your own people that no 
this is not the right this is not a good idea  

616
01:13:31,260 –> 01:13:37,680
um so for Navajo Nation again I’m in the city so 
it’s a little bit hard for me um there’s a lot of  

617
01:13:37,680 –> 01:13:45,180
people on the res on the Navajo Nation there’s a 
lot of ngos and individual activists there’s a I  

618
01:13:45,180 –> 01:13:50,520
would say a very strong movement and I think our 
movements Jonathan mentioned the Pueblo Revolt  

619
01:13:51,360 –> 01:13:58,080
um our people we’ve been fighting for a long 
time and so I think it’s just in our nature but  

620
01:13:58,080 –> 01:14:04,920
how we do it it’s incredibly nuanced because 
of colonization because of the laws and like  

621
01:14:04,920 –> 01:14:10,800
with uranium mining I’m dealing with nuclear stuff 
that’s on the federal level but the state of New  

622
01:14:10,800 –> 01:14:16,980
Mexico is like super pro-nuclear and that’s one of 
the things I just wanted to wrap up with is we’re  

623
01:14:16,980 –> 01:14:25,260
fighting on on on the Navajo Nation and New Mexico 
there’s no mining right now but there is mining  

624
01:14:25,260 –> 01:14:32,520
in the United States um when all of this stuff 
happened with Russia invading Ukraine the United  

625
01:14:32,520 –> 01:14:39,840
States lost their supply of uranium so where do we 
get uranium I’m not sure but there’s a company I’m  

626
01:14:39,840 –> 01:14:45,300
working on I’m wearing my hall no T-shirt we’re 
fighting a uranium mine at the Grand Canyon so  

627
01:14:45,300 –> 01:14:51,720
there is a push for domestic uranium mining um 
so this is something I’m fighting and uranium  

628
01:14:51,720 –> 01:14:57,960
feeds both the nuclear energy and nuclear weapons 
which again going back to something Jonathan said  

629
01:14:57,960 –> 01:15:02,520
about the United States being one of the biggest 
polluters that’s also the United States military  

630
01:15:03,420 –> 01:15:09,720
so we’re fighting all of these different issues 
when it comes to uranium but nuclear energy is  

631
01:15:09,720 –> 01:15:16,020
not a solution to climate change nuclear energy 
is a false solution because you need fossil fuels  

632
01:15:16,020 –> 01:15:23,340
to produce the energy the the fuel so uranium 
doesn’t just come out of the ground magically  

633
01:15:23,340 –> 01:15:30,360
and you can’t make uranium fuel from nuclear power 
you you need to transport that stuff and you need  

634
01:15:30,360 –> 01:15:37,200
a lot of other energy to make nuclear energy 
and then afterwards the waste what do we do at  

635
01:15:37,200 –> 01:15:43,620
the waist it’s forever so this is something I’ve 
been talking to my elders about and um the nap  

636
01:15:43,620 –> 01:15:48,240
of a Nation hasn’t taken a stance against this 
nuclear waste dump that’s being proposed in New  

637
01:15:48,240 –> 01:15:52,680
Mexico but this is one of the biggest fights 
I’m a part of right now is to stop a nuclear  

638
01:15:52,680 –> 01:15:57,660
waste dump it would be a national waste dump for 
waste from all the commercial nuclear power plants  

639
01:15:57,660 –> 01:16:03,360
so in the United States there’s nowhere to put 
nuclear waste and this is one of the issues where  

640
01:16:03,360 –> 01:16:09,900
having to educate not just our indigenous Elders 
the Pueblos have done a great job in fighting the  

641
01:16:09,900 –> 01:16:15,360
nuclear waste dump and coming out against it and 
talking about climate and energy issues but it’s  

642
01:16:15,360 –> 01:16:19,260
a lot harder for Navajo Nation when they’re 
pushing the fracking and other stuff so I’ll  

643
01:16:19,260 –> 01:16:27,120
just stop there it just takes a lot of work and it 
does take patience and then using our culture to  

644
01:16:27,120 –> 01:16:32,760
convince our elders this is you know this is not 
the way to make money there’s other ways for us to  

645
01:16:32,760 –> 01:16:38,580
protect our people and and that’s the hardest part 
though is because of the money situation thanks

646
01:16:42,420 –> 01:16:46,920
and especially the money situation being something 
that our communities were put in by the people  

647
01:16:47,700 –> 01:16:51,360
that were fighting and so it’s  

648
01:16:52,680 –> 01:16:56,340
I mean not gonna lie there are days where it’s 
just completely disheartening because you feel  

649
01:16:56,340 –> 01:17:01,740
like you’re fighting people on like at every 
level every time you turn around it’s a fight  

650
01:17:01,740 –> 01:17:07,320
and it’s like could I just have a day where I have 
like one win even if it means I just made my bed

651
01:17:13,020 –> 01:17:19,260
one you know I mean I have there’s we could keep 
this conversation going for a very long time and  

652
01:17:19,260 –> 01:17:25,320
I hope that we can have more insta lives and and 
you know keep the conversation happening between  

653
01:17:25,320 –> 01:17:30,840
you all and have others join and um have folks 
be able to like more directly ask you questions  

654
01:17:30,840 –> 01:17:36,960
in this way because it’s nice to um you know 
reach a different audience on Instagram and  

655
01:17:36,960 –> 01:17:42,660
connect with different folks that maybe are not 
connecting to the Hoodwinked webinars and zoom and  

656
01:17:43,260 –> 01:17:49,740
All That Jazz um one quick question and I know we 
gotta wrap up because I don’t want to take up too  

657
01:17:49,740 –> 01:17:54,480
much of everyone’s time but you know hearing you 
what you were just talking about Leona and you  

658
01:17:54,480 –> 01:17:58,440
know what everyone’s been talking about like 
someone who’s watching this you know I’m here  

659
01:17:59,040 –> 01:18:07,200
um in New York City right now um what would you 
recommend that folks who are not in New Mexico or  

660
01:18:07,200 –> 01:18:13,980
you know not in these lands um would you recommend 
like a certain way of getting involved like some  

661
01:18:13,980 –> 01:18:23,160
action item or and or would you recommend just 
you know starting local and tuning in to like you  

662
01:18:23,160 –> 01:18:27,900
know what’s happening here locally because there’s 
something happening everywhere right that we can  

663
01:18:27,900 –> 01:18:35,700
all be way more involved in our local politics 
and the local fights and um connecting with um  

664
01:18:36,360 –> 01:18:40,140
you know I could go into millions of things 
happening right here in New York but I won’t right  

665
01:18:40,140 –> 01:18:47,400
now sure I can jump in because I want to give the 
last word to either shower Jonathan so so I think  

666
01:18:47,400 –> 01:18:53,640
the ansan nuclear movement in the United States 
is an interesting um place and and I don’t think  

667
01:18:53,640 –> 01:18:59,940
anyone needs to join it per se or to be honest 
I don’t think people need to join organizations  

668
01:18:59,940 –> 01:19:04,860
I mean I think it’s good to start your own 
organization if you have a group of people  

669
01:19:06,000 –> 01:19:11,760
um to do some work but I I do believe 
strongly in strategic planning to to  

670
01:19:11,760 –> 01:19:18,000
figure out what is the issue and then how 
to go about you know figuring out what to do  

671
01:19:19,080 –> 01:19:26,100
um so um in New York there’s Indian Point so I’m 
fighting a company called whole Tech and I think  

672
01:19:26,100 –> 01:19:31,860
one way that we can connect is to fight whole Tech 
all over the world for people that want to fight  

673
01:19:31,860 –> 01:19:38,280
nuclear stuff and there’s people in New York City 
already organized but like I said you don’t have  

674
01:19:38,280 –> 01:19:44,460
to join their group there’s ways you can talk to 
your own elected officials or just educate other  

675
01:19:44,460 –> 01:19:51,000
people because right now whole Tech wants to dump 
a million or so many gallons of radioactive water  

676
01:19:51,000 –> 01:19:56,100
from the power plant they just bought which is 
about 30 miles north of the city so they want  

677
01:19:56,100 –> 01:20:02,280
to put that radioactive water in the Hudson and I 
don’t think people in New York City want that but  

678
01:20:02,280 –> 01:20:07,140
the thing is they don’t know about it so how do 
people fight something they don’t know about I I  

679
01:20:07,140 –> 01:20:12,900
mean so that’s one thing is just to talk about it 
um and and so Indian Point is a power plant north  

680
01:20:12,900 –> 01:20:18,600
of New York City whole Tech owns power plants 
they’ve been buying them all over the place but  

681
01:20:18,600 –> 01:20:22,860
you don’t have to fight like I said you don’t 
have to fight nuclear I think the easiest thing  

682
01:20:22,860 –> 01:20:28,740
and I do believe it’s important to write letters 
to your elected officials even just a quick email  

683
01:20:28,740 –> 01:20:33,900
that says hey I was on this webinar and I learned 
about this nuclear thing especially if you have  

684
01:20:33,900 –> 01:20:39,960
nuclear stuff in your state you can focus on one 
issue but um the nuclear waste dump I mentioned  

685
01:20:39,960 –> 01:20:46,500
it’s going to have National transport so there’s 
National issues that affect everybody across the  

686
01:20:46,500 –> 01:20:54,000
board but I think you said it already Laura just 
start locally on your own concern I know I was I  

687
01:20:54,000 –> 01:21:00,900
met my first EJ training I met a bunch of teenage 
women uh doing something because the nail salon  

688
01:21:00,900 –> 01:21:06,780
was contaminating their their neighborhood and 
I thought that was really interesting and and so  

689
01:21:06,780 –> 01:21:12,360
it’s kind of the same issue but it’s different 
things in our environments hurting us and so  

690
01:21:12,360 –> 01:21:19,320
I think I think it’s just educating people and 
then taking whatever appropriate action direct  

691
01:21:19,320 –> 01:21:24,720
action political action spiritual doing your 
prayers that’s really important I think for  

692
01:21:24,720 –> 01:21:31,140
indigenous peoples to have those Protections 
in place so that’s where I’ll leave it thanks

693
01:21:36,420 –> 01:21:41,040
um Shaw and Jonathan would either of you 
like to share some some final thoughts it  

694
01:21:41,040 –> 01:21:47,340
can be on that question or you know some final 
parting thoughts for our loyal followers who’ve  

695
01:21:47,340 –> 01:21:50,520
been watching or folks who’ve tuned 
in more recently thanks to everyone

696
01:22:03,180 –> 01:22:07,320
um yeah no I was just gonna say um I would 
definitely agree you know get involved locally  

697
01:22:07,860 –> 01:22:12,840
um you know we have indigenous people everywhere 
in this country and and beyond that are fighting  

698
01:22:12,840 –> 01:22:19,380
against you know these same institutions of 
militarization of extractive Industries um and  

699
01:22:19,380 –> 01:22:25,380
just you know all of these things are intertwined 
um definitely you know there’s like lyanna said  

700
01:22:25,380 –> 01:22:30,060
there are different Paths of you know you need 
organizations to kind of help you find that and  

701
01:22:30,060 –> 01:22:34,560
navigate that political landscape there’s tons 
that you can get involved in or you can you know  

702
01:22:34,560 –> 01:22:39,780
definitely you know just stay as an individual 
and participate in you know whatever ways Your  

703
01:22:39,780 –> 01:22:43,860
Capacity allows I think but something really 
beautiful about these movement spaces as well  

704
01:22:43,860 –> 01:22:50,760
is that there’s truly you know spaces for everyone 
um just whatever you know skill set that you have  

705
01:22:50,760 –> 01:22:55,560
to offer there are different ways that you can uh 
contribute to any movement that you’re called to  

706
01:22:56,820 –> 01:23:01,200
um but yeah I think I see comments yeah we uh 
we have our nail file Solutions Coalition here  

707
01:23:01,200 –> 01:23:07,080
in New Mexico um we’re going to be continuing uh 
to stand up against these uh proposed hydrogen  

708
01:23:07,080 –> 01:23:14,520
production legislation and hydrogen hubs um I know 
that there is a like Southwest or uh try try West  

709
01:23:14,520 –> 01:23:21,420
Mountain Coalition of things like New Mexico 
Arizona Colorado and Utah an on Charlie shirt  

710
01:23:21,420 –> 01:23:27,480
but there are where they’re uh kind of proposed 
other hydrogen uh hydrogen hubs and hydrogen uh  

711
01:23:27,480 –> 01:23:32,280
legislation as well um but yeah just anywhere that 
you can get involved I would definitely encourage  

712
01:23:33,000 –> 01:23:40,620
um especially you know young people young people 
of color um yeah and I will yeah there you go

713
01:23:43,800 –> 01:23:45,900
last word no pressure um

714
01:23:47,940 –> 01:23:52,980
um so I I when I introduced myself I had 
mentioned this and this is this is one of  

715
01:23:52,980 –> 01:24:00,420
my major soapboxes this is a hill I will die 
on and that is things like solidarity Mutual  

716
01:24:00,420 –> 01:24:05,760
aid for a lot of people these feel like really 
revolutionary things but for some of us these  

717
01:24:05,760 –> 01:24:12,000
things are actually just part of the culture 
and so I am constantly reminding people that  

718
01:24:12,000 –> 01:24:18,840
solidarity is not theoretical it is not abstract 
it is literally building relationships and not  

719
01:24:18,840 –> 01:24:24,540
transactional relationships because that is how 
the colonizers got us you cannot build solidarity  

720
01:24:24,540 –> 01:24:30,420
on transactional relationships solidarity is 
rooted in hey I met Jonathan and Leona through  

721
01:24:30,420 –> 01:24:36,960
this this IG live I’m really interested in what 
they do I care about them and their movement  

722
01:24:36,960 –> 01:24:45,540
and in order to honor my ancestors because I’m a 
settler here I support them whatever I can do to  

723
01:24:45,540 –> 01:24:52,800
amplify them to uplift whatever they have going on 
right now even that so like go follow everyone who  

724
01:24:52,800 –> 01:24:57,240
you’ve seen here follow who they follow see what 
they’re putting in their stories and re-sharing  

725
01:24:57,780 –> 01:25:02,940
and reach out to people online I I make it a 
point whether it’s through Pacifica Uprising  

726
01:25:02,940 –> 01:25:09,600
or through my personal account to be very 
accessible um because I’m an introvert and  

727
01:25:09,600 –> 01:25:14,100
I don’t necessarily like going outside and 
being around people but I’m a firm believer  

728
01:25:14,700 –> 01:25:21,240
with 20 plus years experience in building digital 
Community Pacifica Uprising has a small board of  

729
01:25:21,240 –> 01:25:30,240
directors there are three of them plus me as the 
Ed we have never met in person all together um we  

730
01:25:30,240 –> 01:25:35,220
have members who have never met at all but these 
are people that I’ve been building with for years  

731
01:25:36,060 –> 01:25:42,300
because digital Community is just as important 
as in-person community and when you connect with  

732
01:25:42,300 –> 01:25:48,840
people and you can see where your movement spaces 
are related because everything is interconnected  

733
01:25:49,560 –> 01:25:54,300
you can help each other whether you’re in that 
space with them or not and even if it is just  

734
01:25:54,300 –> 01:26:00,420
sharing their story you can be a base that is 
nurturing that flower and someone else sees it and  

735
01:26:00,420 –> 01:26:06,060
goes out and spreads that story and lets people 
know and even if that’s all you can do don’t ever  

736
01:26:06,060 –> 01:26:11,220
listen to anyone who’s calling you like a keyboard 
Warrior like share stories make sure people hear  

737
01:26:11,220 –> 01:26:19,080
about it Grassroots over big time like mainstream 
media this is how things get done this is how  

738
01:26:19,080 –> 01:26:23,520
we’ve always gotten things done if it weren’t for 
my ancestors doing it I wouldn’t be here today  

739
01:26:24,240 –> 01:26:28,860
so like in the Pacific we rely on coconut 
Wireless different communities have their  

740
01:26:28,860 –> 01:26:33,900
own setup do that share it with your friends and 
if you have questions reach out to those accounts  

741
01:26:33,900 –> 01:26:38,940
like whether you’re interested in abolition 
bodily autonomy climate Justice all of this  

742
01:26:38,940 –> 01:26:45,480
is interconnected so just reach out to someone 
ask if they know anyone in your area and connect  

743
01:26:45,480 –> 01:26:51,540
and really have those relationships like build 
real relationships and that is the one thing  

744
01:26:51,540 –> 01:27:00,300
the enemy the oppressor does not want to 
see us do so do it and that’s my soapbox

745
01:27:14,400 –> 01:27:18,780
and now I want to play with these filters 
like the other because these look fun

746
01:27:21,660 –> 01:27:27,720
I’m trying to send Hearts I think when you’re 
a presenter I don’t think you can send Hearts  

747
01:27:27,720 –> 01:27:36,480
so I don’t like that okay thank you so much 
Laura I don’t know if you’re you froze maybe  

748
01:27:37,380 –> 01:27:44,160
um but uh I’m probably gonna hop off here soon 
yeah I don’t know what happened Laura froze on  

749
01:27:44,160 –> 01:27:48,420
my end too but same thank you so much I’m 
definitely will definitely continue to be  

750
01:27:48,420 –> 01:27:52,200
in touch and you know like you just said 
we’ll definitely be in solidarity and I’ll  

751
01:27:52,200 –> 01:27:57,480
be supporting uh both of you in all the ways 
that I can absolutely same thing from our end  

752
01:27:57,480 –> 01:28:02,820
yeah I’m looking forward to learning more about 
your work and I I know we’re already connected  

753
01:28:02,820 –> 01:28:08,700
now so we’ll we can basically my cousins now so 
whatever you need I’m here to uplift and amplify  

754
01:28:09,240 –> 01:28:15,960
awesome love it all right well I’m gonna jump 
off I don’t know you guys have a great evening